Home
/
RELIGION & LIBERTY ONLINE
/
Revisiting the Tensions of ‘Faithful Presence’
Revisiting the Tensions of ‘Faithful Presence’
Jun 29, 2026 11:29 PM

A generation of Christians hasbeen inspired and challenged by James Davison Hunter’s popular work, To Change the World: The Irony, Tragedy, and Possibility of Christianity in the Late Modern World 1st Edition. Published five years ago, the book promotes a particular approach to cultural engagement(“faithful presence”) thatstirred a wide and rich conversation across Christendom.

Its influence continues toendure, whether instirring individualimaginations or shapingthe arc of institutions. To reflect on that influence, The Gospel Coalition recently rounded up a series of essays on the topic,including a range of voicessuch as Collin Hansen, Al Mohler, Hunter Baker, and Greg Forster. Titled Revisiting Faithful Presence, the collection is available for free as an ebook.

The responses vary in praise and critique, uncovering new insights, posingnew questions, and exposing lingering cracks and gaps. In doing so,they’ve inspired me to once again return to the book myself.

Though each offers its pelling angle, it was Greg Forster’s essay (“To Love the World”) that stuck with me the most, reminding me of some of the key areas I initially wrestled with,particularly Hunter’s lopsided elevation mon grace and the embeddedmaterialism inhis framing of culture.

Such gaps are worth noting not onlybecause they exist in To Change the World, of course. Indeed, each represents a frequenttension in our broaderdiscussions on cultural engagement.Demonstrating the nature of that tension, John Seel points out some of his misgivings with the responses, particularly Forster’s essay, the basic points of which he struggles to understand orre-state. Seel is no stranger to these discussions and brings a great deal of weight in his own analysis, so I was a bit startled to find thedisagreement starting so far from where it appearsto (actually) begin.

Forster has sinceresponded in kind.On the topic mon grace, for instance, Seel argues that Forster “asserts a quasi-Constantinianism that mon grace,” characterizing Forster’s position as “salvation or nothing.” Having read Forster’s essay, the rush to these sorts of absolutes is peculiar.As Forster explains in response, there is, behold, a position of tension somewhere in between.

Common grace can take us (i.e. culture) to certain distances by itself. But yes, the power of the Holy Spirit we do, in fact, need:

There is a middle ground between mon grace does everything and believing it does nothing, and Constantinianism is not the only model for how the redemptive work of the Holy Spirit can impact munity beyond the bounds of the church. If Seel thinks that what I wrote constitutes Constantinianism (even of the merely “quasi” variety) he needs to get out more; I look forward to showing Seel’s characterization of me to Patrick Deneen the next time I find myself debating him. As C. S. Lewis said in another context, “if the Patagonians think me a dwarf and the Pygmies a giant, perhaps my stature is in fact fairly unremarkable.”

I mon grace is not sufficient by itself to do all we need, and Seel claims on this basis that I believe “it’s salvation or nothing.” Apparently for Seel it is, culturally mon grace or nothing. Common grace by itself can maintain some level of order and public justice, such as the order of first-century Rome, and this is certainly not nothing. Jesus and Peter and Paul did not think it was nothing when they taught their followers to obey and honor the emperor. But the Romans did not get rid of slavery, or stop carrying unwanted infants out into the forest and leaving them there to die a slow and painful death of starvation, until the Holy Spirit moved through the church to expose the evil of these practices. Common grace may or may not have been enough, culturally speaking, for Philemon; Onesimus needed more.

As for Hunter’s embedded materialism, the confusion continues.

Seel actsbewildered at the notion, when, for me, it presented one of the more glaring misses in my initial reading of Hunter. When es to politics and the economy, Hunter places these squarely outside of culture, approaching each as spheres doomed to domination by materialistic forces.

As Forster argues in his original essay:

Hunter’s analysis of political action is deeply materialistic. Materialism is the view that there is no reality higher than that of material objects and forces, and if Christianity is true any materialistic analysis must be false. But because Hunter has chosen to treat politics as if it were not a part of culture, his description of it cannot avoid materialism. He defines politics solely in terms of coercion; justice e in, but only superficially. His treatment of economics elsewhere in the book, such as it is, is equally materialistic and therefore equally false. He thinks economics is about money, and the higher meaning of our stewardship and cooperative labor is peripheral.

If we cannot agree that politics and economic exchange are ripe spheres for “faithful presence,” in severe need of a Christian liberty that actually sets the captives free, we are missing something significant.

The pursuit of a rightly imagined Christian vision for cultural engagement involves all sorts of struggle and tension. We’re bound to disagree at plenty of points. That sort ofdisagreement is healthy, and it’s bolstered by the sorts ofessays offered by The Gospel Coalition’s book: voices e together to illuminate strengths, weaknesses, and continuing struggles in the church.

Forster’s essay, along with the many others, offers a mix of celebration and critical engagement. While I wouldn’t expect us tofind total unity on these matters any time soon, the actualpoints of departure and disagreement ought not be as muddled as they apparently are.

For more, read Hunter’s book and the TGC response, Revisiting ‘Faithful Presence.’

Read Seel’s review and Forster’s response.

Comments
Welcome to mreligion comments! Please keep conversations courteous and on-topic. To fosterproductive and respectful conversations, you may see comments from our Community Managers.
Sign up to post
Sort by
Show More Comments
RELIGION & LIBERTY ONLINE
‘Coerced, Perfunctory, and Unreflective Patriotism’
Here’s the text of a letter sent this morning to the editor at Woman’s Day magazine (don’t ask why I was reading Woman’s Day. I read whatever happens to be sitting in the rack next to mode): Paula mentary on the Pledge of Allegiance (“Pledging Allegiance,” September 1, 2007) sounds incredibly McCarthy-esque. Are we to now believe that having qualms about mandatory recitation of the Pledge constitutes an un-American activity? Spencer dismisses the many reasons that one might object to...
Classical Music = Gang Repellant
My local library is apparently having a problem with youth gangs who are using the puters to access social networking sites, such as MySpace and Facebook. The hooligans are defacing each others sites, sending threatening messages, and causing other kinds of trouble. From the Wyoming Advance, “A place that should be safe for children has seen graffiti, assaults, loud and vulgar language, patron intimidation, public sexual encounters, carving gang symbols in furniture, and more.” What is the library to do?...
Time Magazine Gets It Wrong: Boys Are Still In Crisis And Securing An Immoral Marketplace
The boy crisis is not a myth. David Von Drehle’s article, “The Myth About Boys,” in this week’s Time Magazine argues that the boy crisis of the 1990s has leveled off and is now improving. Not exactly. This assessment, however, pletely dependent on one’s moral framework. Boys are still in crisis, regardless of what feminists and other women, like some published in the Washington Post, are saying. It’s a crisis of morality. The ongoing crisis will have dire consequences because...
Bucer, “The Sixth Law: Poor Relief”
Readings in Social Ethics: Martin Bucer, De Regno Christi (selections), in Melanchthon and Bucer, Book II, Chapter XIV, “The Sixth Law: Poor Relief,” pp. 306-15. References below are to page number. Giving aid to the needy in the church is a manifestation of an attribute of the church, for “without it there can be no munion of saints” (307).What the church and its representatives are and are not responsible for: “First, they [deacons] should investigate how many really indigent persons...
Bucer, “Care for the Needy”
Readings in Social Ethics: Martin Bucer, De Regno Christi (selections), in Melanchthon and Bucer, Book I, Chapter XIV, “Care for the Needy,” pp. 256-59. References below are to page number. Bucer praises the deacon as an office of the institutional church and an artifact of the early mending it to reestablishment in the evangelical churches: “it was their principal duty to keep a list of all of Christ’s needy in the churches, to be acquainted with the life and character...
Markets and Their Importance to the Electorate
I have argued for many years now that free markets are intrinsically good. I have tried to engage this issue with Christians but many are either not interested or do not see any importance in the pursuit. I know markets can e bad masters when people lack virtue. I also know that the alternatives to free markets have littered the twentieth century with more death than any single cause in human history. (Think socialism, fascism and Marxism.) And representative democracy,...
Affirmation Blankets
Just when you thought America’s Rogerian culture of prostrated self-worship couldn’t get anymore nauseating…. ‘I boldly ask for what I want!’ ….Enter, the Affirmation Blanket. I am almost reluctant to give these people more publicity, but this is way too funny to pass up. Some of my favorite lines are, “I am perfect just the way I am,” (found on the “Serenity” blanket), “Success and prosperity follow me everywhere I go” (from the “Joy” blanket — because we all know...
Our Counter-Majoritarian Constitution
In his review of Sanford Levinson’s Our Undemocratic Constitution: Where the Constitution Goes Wrong (And How We the People Can Correct It) in the Claremont Review of Books, Randy Barnett highlights some of the same features of the US political structure as particularly unique that Lord Acton emphasized. In conclusion Barnett writes of our Constitution: It is counter-majoritarian by design. Precisely because the founders feared majoritarian fecklessness and abuse, they inserted the veto points to which Levinson objects. Most people...
Who is favored?
My brothers, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ, don’t show favoritism. Suppose a es into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in shabby clothes es in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” have you not discriminated among yourselves and e judges...
Global Warming Consensus Alert
Today brings disturbing news of new consensus that seems to be developing: Modern women want men who are keen on recycling rather than good at making wisecracks, a survey said. The poll for men’s magazine Nuts said going green is now the main way to a woman’s heart, with a “good sense of ing in second. Oh great – a clean, tidy, and humorless future. Thanks, ladies. Thanks a lot. ...
Related Classification
Copyright 2023-2026 - www.mreligion.com All Rights Reserved