Home
/
RELIGION & LIBERTY ONLINE
/
Five Adults And A Baby: Is This A Family?
Five Adults And A Baby: Is This A Family?
Dec 17, 2025 3:05 PM

Five adults (three men, two women) in the Netherlands are having a child together, and plan to raise said child together. I know this is a little tricky so let me explain. Jaco and Sjoerd (those are the guys) and Daantje and Dewi (the women) are all homosexual. They’ve known each other for 10 years. Then there is Sean, who is the third person in Jaco and Sjoerd’s relationship. They would marry him, but cannot legally.

The five folks want a child. So (and if you want to read exactly how they did it, you can, but for now let’s just leave it at this) Daantje is now carrying “their” baby.

Five parents with equal rights and responsibilities, divided across two households—those are the terms of the agreement that we all signed and had notarized,” says Dewi. They had to do this because, legally speaking, the Netherlands isn’t quite ready for multi-parenthood just yet. A child can still only have a maximum of two legal parents and, in a marriage, those parents are usually the biological mother and her husband or wife. However, the biological mother is also allowed to appoint someone else as the second legal parent.

The laws surrounding parental rights have improved significantly for gay parents in the Netherlands over the past few years, but the issue of multi-parenthood is still plicated one. In the case of this particular five-parent family, Jaco has taken on the role of legal parent number two—replacing Dewi, who initially held the position because of her marriage to Daantje.

“We wanted to make sure that there was one legal parent in both households, because we’re splitting the upbringing equally,” explains Dewi.

I have no idea how this is going to work. I’m sure the five of them have sat down and talked about different scenarios and how they’ll handle it: who will stay home from work when the little darling is sick, and who will take said darling to the dentist and such. But I have no idea how this is going to work.

I have no idea how this is going to work for the darling child. Is this kid really going to bond “equally” with three men and two women? Is the kid even going to know he/she is supposed to consider each of these people equally mom, mom, dad, dad, and dad?

The adults think so:

When I [reporterNoor Spanjer] ask if they’ve read about attachment psychology in young children, Sjoerd tells me that a friend of his is writing a doctorate on the subject: “She says the main thing is consistency in the family, and that is something we can offer.”

“The world of a baby gets bigger over time, but in the initial stages a baby can attach to about five people—so that works out perfectly for us,” says Dewi.

“So that works out perfectly for us.” Indeed. The adults have this all figured out, and it “works out perfectly for us.” The kid – well, whatever. It’s really the wants, desires and wishes of the adults that are important here.

Maybe these folks should have had a long talk with Oscar Robert Lopez before they decided that they would equally parent a child together. Lopez was raised by lesbian mothers, and he calls himself a survivor. Why?

It is abusive to tell a child, “We are your moms” or “we are your dads,” and then expect the child never to feel the loss of such important icons, in addition to the injury of having been severed from at least one, and possibly both, biological parents—not because it was necessary, but because the two adults insisted on the arrangement. The lessons children learn from this undermine selfhood: might makes right, little people are subject to the whims of self-serving parents, and powerful people can impose “love” on weaker beings with money or political influence over adoption agencies, family courts, sperm banks, and surrogate mothers.

None of these problems would arise if we lived in a world where gay people saw children not as modity for purchase but rather as an obligation requiring sacrifices (i.e., you give up your gay partner instead of making your kid give up a parent of the opposite sex, because you’re the adult.)

What we have here is a bunch of adults acting like children. They want a kid, so they get pregnant. There is no thought to what is best FOR THE CHILD. Instead, we have “so that works out perfectly FOR US.”

What we have here is five tall children getting ready to raise a child. What we have here is five emotionally-immature people who have refused adulthood, and opted for what “works out perfectly for us.” What we have here is a disastrous situation for a child. But the five adults are really only in it for themselves.

This is not a family; this is pre-arranged child abuse.

Comments
Welcome to mreligion comments! Please keep conversations courteous and on-topic. To fosterproductive and respectful conversations, you may see comments from our Community Managers.
Sign up to post
Sort by
Show More Comments
RELIGION & LIBERTY ONLINE
Nothing New ‘Underneath that Burning Sun’
Friedrich Hayek once called intellectuals “professional secondhand dealers in ideas.” And the Preacher proclaimed, “There is nothing new under the sun.” So perhaps it shouldn’t be surprising when ideas, memes, and other cultural phenomena pop up again and again. There is, however, a notable correspondence between an Acton Commentary that I wrote earlier this month, “The Worst Christmas Song Ever,” and a piece that appeared weeks earlier at The Federalist. In “‘Do They Know It’s Christmas’ Is The Worst Christmas...
The Blue-Cold Child
From Flannery O’Connor’s The Violent Bear It Away: God told the world he was going to send it a king and the world waited. The world thought, a golden fleece will do for His bed. Silver and gold and peacock tails, a thousand suns in a peacock’s tail will do for his crib. His mother will ride on a four-horned white beast and use the sunset for a cape. She’ll trail it behind her over the ground and let the...
Lessons in humility from the Christ Child
In the latest video blog from For the Life of the World, Evan Koons offers Christmas greetings and a few timely reminders with his usual dose of humor. “He made himself nothing to be with us.” Indeed, by entering the Earth in human form, nay, in infant human form, born to the house of a carpenter, Jesus provides a striking example of the order of Christian service — of the truth and the life, yes, but also of the way....
The Politics of ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’
Frank Capra’s ‘It’s Wonderful Life’ is one of the greatest movies of all time. It’s a Christmas classic and also—as I’ve always thought—a conservative classic, a film whose themes align closely with traditional conservatism. But not everyone agrees on the politics of Bedford Falls. Keith Miller and Chris Schaefer debate whether themes of the movie lean more liberal or more conservative. Naturally, I agree with Miller’s small government assessment: The movie exults in the way the Bailey Building & Loan...
10 Things Political Scientists Know That We Don’t
“If economics is the dismal science,” says Hans Noel, an associate professor at Georgetown University, “then political science is the dismissed science.” Most Americans—from pundits to voters—don’t think that political science has much to say about political life. But there are some things, notes Noel, that “political scientists know that it seems many practitioners, pundits, journalists, and otherwise informed citizens do not.” Here are excerpts from Noel’s list of ten things political scientists know that you don’t: #1. It’s The...
All I Want For Christmas Is You
Parents spend a lot of time and money trying to get their children what they want for Christmas. The list written for Santa is poured over, gifts are wrapped, stockings are stuffed. But are you giving your child what she really wants? IKEA Spain wants us to think about our children’s wish lists a bit differently. ...
Poverty Imagery and the ‘Christmas Song’
In last week’s mentary, “The Worst Christmas Song Ever,” Jordan Ballor touched on the well-intentioned yet harmful message shared by “Do They Know It’s Christmas?” the 1984 song produced by the music group, Band Aid, in response to the famine that struck Ethiopia. Ballor describes the context and some of the song’s lyrics: The song describes Africa largely as a barren wasteland, ‘Where the only water flowing is the bitter sting of tears.’ It continues in this vein. Africa, the...
Reflections on How We Approach God
We know how God approached mankind: the surprising incarnation as a baby at Christmas.But how ought we to approach Him? Here is a wide range of 14 ways we often try, along with abenefit for each: Love the right things and you will find your way home to GodThink the right things and you will know the sovereign GodBelieve the right thingsand you will live at peaceObey, obey, obey and you will not go to hellWithdraw from the world and...
A Dangerous Moment with Promise
In this mentary, Acton president and co-founder Rev. Robert A. Sirico reflects on Christmas, but also on the things weighing heavily on many hearts. Despite this being a joyful time, we are caught in perilous moment in history due to the meeting of various things: intellectual, financial, militarily, and theologically. President Ronald Reagan gave a similar address in 1981: Rev. Sirico says: How to get to the heart of the matter? That, as Shakespeare might say, is the rub. Yet,...
Food Stamp Sticker Shock
Grocery shopping is not a chore I enjoy. It’s a mundane task, and everything you buy you will have to soon replace. Then, when you finally get to the end of the chore, you look at the register and think, “HOW much??” It gets worse. You and I (American taxpayers) managed to “misspend” $2.4 billion this year on food stamps, now known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP.) How did we manage this? According to the USDA’s audit for...
Related Classification
Copyright 2023-2025 - www.mreligion.com All Rights Reserved